The Truth About the Shroud of Turin: Solving the Mystery
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It's one of those things that seems so obvious when you think about it, and answers so many questions about the shroud, that it has to be the solution. And yet it's taken centuries for someone to figure it out. Wilson has a great and quite detailed article in Christianity Today explaining how he went about solving the mystery. There's also a shorter article about Wilson's 'shadow shroud' on discovery. Finally, check out Wilson's website: shadowshroud.
The thumbnail shows a shroud-of-turin replica that Wilson created using his method. Religion Posted on Fri Mar 11, Comments Oooh I know some people who are going to be so pissed I better go and e-mail all these links to them! Yeah, that's how they made the first photographs too. The trick was that the subject had to be still long enough for the image to transfer.
That's why people never smile in pre-Civil War era photos-they had to sit still for hours in the same pose. I still find it troublesome that a medieval forger would go through the trouble of creating an effect that wouldn't have been noticed until the modern camera detected it. Even if we assume that a forger were capable of creating something like this, the most recent carbon dating put the original fibers of the shroud within a first century time frame.
Should we then conclude that it must be a forgery from one of the earliest christians? No, you assume that a medieval forger used an old shroud to create the forgery. This is all explained in the article. This is a nice idea, and I yield to nobody in the firmness of my judgment until proved otherwise that the shroud is a forgery, but where would a medieval artist get such a large piece of plate glass? Until the seventeenth century, flat glass could only be made by blowing a cylinder and slitting it open or by blowing a bubble and spinning it to give bull's-eye glass - that's why old windows are made in such small pieces held together by lead strips.
In this theory, the shroud would have to have been exposed with one piece of glass, and I can't think of another transparent substance that could practically have been used. Have I missed something?
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Or did the originator of the theory have an answer to that one I skimmed his website but found it rather indigestible? The glass issue is addressed on the guy's website, in the faq section: How big was medieval glass?
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Could they make big pieces, or were they all little like those in stained-glass windows? Basically it would have taken two sheets of glass at the sizes they could make. Still, I try to apply Occhams Razer to this and I find myself unsure of what is the simpler answer. And that's pretty substansial considering the alternative to it being a forgery. If it is a hoax, I think you may want to revise your list of the top This has got to be numero uno.
People mistakingly believe this depiction was only discovered with the advent of photo camera's, but what they only did was make the depiction more clearly visible, people have been seeing it all along. Remember that around , shortly after the shroud re surfaced, a local bishop already claimed the shroud was a hoax created by painting the figure of Christ on it. Radiocarbon dating has shown that the shroud was probably made a few years before that. It's a hoax and it's even a pretty obvious one. The world's first contact print! Posted by Vic K.
Alex, I agree with Andrew J. If this guy's tested theory isn't the closest we'll probably ever get to the truth about the shroud - then it would get my vote for the! Apparently they believe a history of the shroud prior to Leonardo's time is a fabrication.. In fact they claim that Leonardo is the faker who created the shroud and then delighted in watching an audience worship it while he hid to observe. The motive? He was supposed to have been a member of a secret society that did not believe in Christianity but could not express their disbelief due to the power that the Catholic Church had at that time.
This and numerous other hidden message by him, esp. The fact of the matter is that if the REAL shroud had been found, it would have been mutiple pieces of linen, not just one. Could such large pieces of glass have been made in the 14th century? How common were they? Not very since glass was extrmely expensive until modern times.
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That is why medieval glass was almost exclusively used in cathederals. Also, medieval glass had a lot of impurities due to the methods used to blow the glass. As I understand it, it requires more heat in the furnace than was available to the medieval smiths to ensure glass without a lot of bubbles throughout it. I goofed. I guess I was thinking of steel when I made the comment about furnace heat. It was a lack of soda that kept glass from being common, and that was solved prior to the shround becoming well known.
However, Alex, why would a forger even bother to use an old cloth? This was the era of tons literally of relics. There were enough pieces of "The True Cross" to crucify the population of a small town. Various relics abounded, including a vial of milk from the breast of the Virgin Mary.
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No one would have thought to investigate the cloth, and it would have been easy and natural for a forger to just grab a sheet and no one would question the age of the sheet. So, the Shroud is lie-dyed. Sorry, Anne N, but you'll never get me to say that the resurrection of Jesus Christ would actually qualify as the biggest hoax in all of history.
I could easily be assassinated for saying that, although it's probably true. So I'm not. But the Shroud of Turin is less of a holy object than WE are, and it deserves to be finally debunked. I'd me more inclined to say the death was more of a hoax. Actually, whoever talked us out of the ocean should be spanked. Actually whoever talked us into meiosis! Mitosis was bliss, damnit. At least as single celled organisms we were too smart to fall for christianity. It would be cheap just rob a grave , and even folks in the middle ages might have hesitated before believing that a brand new piece of linen was the burial shroud of Jesus.
Actually Alex, anthropologists and psychologists have pretty well determined that the medieval mindset was not the same as ours, which is why in all their paintings they showed people of bibical times wearing medieval clothes and armor. There was a relic of the Virgin Mary's wedding dress that went around and it was a medieval dress. Your line of thought is based upon the scientific method, something the medieval mind did not use. Nor many people today even. A new piece of cloth would not have registered to the medieval mind, or if it did it would have registered as a miracle of preservation.
Christopher, I know about the strange medieval mindset that seemed capable of happily believing the most bizarre things. I've even written about it in my book. But the facts seem to be that a the material of the shroud dates to around the 1st century; and b it would have been relatively easy, even for someone in the middle ages, to put the image of the crucified man on the shroud by using the bleach-in-the-sun method.
Therefore it makes sense that a medieval forger bleached an old shroud in the sun. It's the simplest explanation. The other possible theories that it was a 1st century forger, or that the shroud really is a miracle don't make a lot of sense. I've been following this thread, but honestly don't care how it ends. As an atheist, I've kinda already made my decision on whether or not the shroud is real.
It's real. Just kidding. But when I read this page today, the google ads at the top of the page had a link to this Ok, folks.. No flaming about religion, please. Actually, given the prevalence of false relics and readily available shrouds, it's entirely possible that some monk, looking for good relics, pulled out a shroud and found that the previous occupant had left a bit of a stain on it. While it may not have actually been worn by him, it's the belief and faith involved that matters.
And how is stating what I believe flaming? Actually, the shadow shroud only simulates some of the features of the Shroud of Turin and fails to work chemically. First, just because one guy got lucky and produced a similar looking linen does not necessarily mean that thes shroud was created by the same means. There is no evidence indicating any thing like this. Second, the method used to create the shroud has been shown to be entirely believable to any people whether they are from the middle ages or from modern times. Then why wouldnt other fake relics have been made.
Especially considering that the shroud had to generate enough revenue in order to pay for the glass screens that were used. These screens could have also been used multiple times.
Third, for the forger to have acquired the material he would have needed to collect it from the middle east. The fabric, according to research, contains pollens and flaxs indigenous to the middle east region. The likelihood that a first century linen composed of these materials would be available during the middle ages is very slim. Furthermore if it was just an ordinary linen or grave linen that was swiped then why has it decomposed very little? In all likelihood this shroud could verywell have been recovered from the tomb and been preserved by the early Christians and later recovered by the Crusaders.
Just because someone discovered a method to make similar images does not necessarily indicate that is what truly happened. I would not cat my vote yet regarding this artifact. I guess we could say, that any wrong theories about The Shroud would be erring Jesus' dirty linen I'm no expert on The Shroud dar , so I don't know what to believe. But, I welcome fresh theories or insight into what's claimed to be the cloth of Christ So, you're a true believer, with doubts.
In answer to your first question minus the question mark , the history of relic forgeries throughout the Middle Ages is infamous, and covered here at the Museum quite extensively. Alex doesn't miss much. In answer to your second question; the atmosphere of the Roman catacombs is an ideal place to preserve quality linen for centuries. While the shrouded body decays, the fluids dry up so thoroughly and quickly, that the cloth is in no further danger of deterioration without the invasion of humidity from outside.
This property can be easily continued thru relatively humidity-free encasement, as the Shroud of Turin has been preserved in for many more modern centuries. And lastly, the similarity of your last statement regarding the Crusaders to that involved with the subject of the search for the Holy Grail is remarkable. Guess "someone's" been paying attention in class. Sorry, Hairy. I was responding to Jared's post, just took a while. Drive on, dude. What are you trying to say here? I'm not following you. I've been looking for my copy but I can't find it.
So, I will sumerize the book as best as I can remember. The Shroud first appeared, as the Shroud, in in a display by an impoverished French knight.